{"id":346,"date":"2009-10-27T00:23:38","date_gmt":"2009-10-27T00:23:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/?p=346"},"modified":"2010-09-24T09:13:43","modified_gmt":"2010-09-24T08:13:43","slug":"the-style-edition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/the-style-edition\/","title":{"rendered":"The Style Edition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Man, you know everyone on earth gets their fifteen minutes of fame when even lowly cartoonists get interviews.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tor.com\/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=blog&amp;id=58111\">My Deep Thoughts on steampunk and the universe, over at Tor.com!<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I make one extremely contraversial statement in that interview that is bound to set off a firestorm.\u00a0 That is:\u00a0 the fashion of the 1830s is <em>hideous.<\/em> Here at 2dgoggles we pride ourselves on our strict historical accuracy on all points save one.\u00a0 And on that one point, I feel myself entirely justified.\u00a0 There is just no way I&#8217;m going to draw clothes like these:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-347\" title=\"fashion\" src=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/fashion.jpg\" alt=\"fashion\" width=\"550\" height=\"413\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/fashion.jpg 550w, https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/fashion-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As you can see from the following chart, the comic unfortunately coincides with the absolute nadir of western fashion in the last 500 years.. what are the odds!\u00a0 Babbage, seriously, you&#8217;re a statistician&#8211; what are the odds??!\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:1833_fashion_plate.jpg\">Ghastly proportions<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/laracorsets.com\/Womens_Fashion_History_1830s.htm\">nasty pointless detail<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.victoriana.com\/Mens-Clothing\/mens-clothing-1830.html\">huge lapels<\/a>.. I swear to god, it wants only polyester.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-349\" title=\"fashionchart\" src=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/fashionchart.jpg\" alt=\"fashionchart\" width=\"600\" height=\"353\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/fashionchart.jpg 600w, https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/fashionchart-300x176.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Further proof:\u00a0 spot the point at which fashion FALLS OFF A CLIFF (Alfred Roller drawings courtesy of <a href=\"http:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:1794-1887-Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller.GIF\">Wikimedia<\/a>):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller1.GIF\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-354\" title=\"Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller\" src=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller1-158x300.GIF\" alt=\"Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller\" width=\"158\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller1-158x300.GIF 158w, https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller1-540x1024.GIF 540w, https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/Fashion-overview-Alfred-Roller1.GIF 710w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 158px) 100vw, 158px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m doing what I can to keep the clothes bearable.\u00a0 This means going for a generic-olde-fashioned-dress for lovelace, with a vague nod to the bizarre lozenge-shape bodices.\u00a0 No power on earth can save the men&#8217;s jackets of this period but anyone can look good in a poofy shirt and a waistcoat (can we bring those back?\u00a0 because they&#8217;re stylin&#8217;).<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-348\" title=\"sherlock\" src=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/sherlock.jpg\" alt=\"sherlock\" width=\"550\" height=\"494\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/sherlock.jpg 550w, https:\/\/sydneypadua.com\/2dgoggles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/sherlock-300x269.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Mind you, much of the time I&#8217;m just going to have to throw everything out the window and put Lovelace in trousers, not only because she would totally have worn them if given half a chance, but as Marian Halcombe puts it in &#8220;The Woman in White&#8221;- &#8220;In my ordinary evening costume I took up the room of three men at least.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, no kidding, Wilkie Collins.\u00a0\u00a0 You try composing a comic panel with three women having a conversation in skirts five feet in diameter.\u00a0 By the way&#8211; it seems like everybody knew everybody else in Victorian England, but sadly there is only the slimmest of connections between Wilkie Collins and Ada Lovelace&#8211; his father met her once and described her as <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=IuwoAAAAYAAJ&amp;pg=PA53&amp;dq=ada+byron&amp;lr=&amp;as_drrb_is=b&amp;as_minm_is=0&amp;as_miny_is=1840&amp;as_maxm_is=0&amp;as_maxy_is=1850&amp;as_brr=0#v=onepage&amp;q=ada%20byron&amp;f=false\">delightful and simple-minded<\/a>.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a shame they never met as I have a feeling they would have gotten on like a HOUSE ON FIRE.<\/p>\n<p>We do have some info on both Babbage and Lovelace&#8217;s dress sense: in true geek fashion, it seems to have been <em>terrible<\/em>.\u00a0 Sources:<\/p>\n<p>Babbage: <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=2T0AAAAAQAAJ&amp;pg=PA392#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\">the waistcoast story.<\/a> I darkly suspect Babbage would have been a Hawaiian-shirt-wearer.. not to throw a cloud over his memory or anything.<\/p>\n<p>Ada Lovelace:<a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=tlyBO8vhr78C&amp;lpg=PA139&amp;dq=hawthorne%20lovelace&amp;lr=&amp;pg=PA139#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\"> awkward, badly dressed geek<\/a>.\u00a0 -this is a recollection of Lovelace&#8217;s visit to her father&#8217;s old estate the year before she died; \u00a0 it is typical of her in this anectode that she goes through two entirely different personalities in the course of three days (speaking of clouds over memory, I should say that the actual extent of Ada&#8217;s racing losses were around 3000 pounds, as far as scholarship can determine.).\u00a0 There are surprisingly few contemporary descriptions of her; see seems to have been rather reclusive.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.diigo.com\/user\/sydneypadua\/lovelace\">You can see everything I&#8217;ve found regarding her from the period online here<\/a> (the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.diigo.com\/list\/sydneypadua\/lovelace-and-babbage\">entire list of my primary sources is here<\/a>).\u00a0 From &#8220;bouyant and hearty&#8221; to &#8220;melancholic&#8221; to &#8220;haughty and arrogant&#8221; or was she &#8220;without an atom of pride&#8221;?\u00a0\u00a0 &#8220;She had, indeed, a most variable personality&#8221;, wrote her first biographer Doris Langley Moore.. indeed!<\/p>\n<p>Anyways, doodling away on &#8220;The Organist&#8221; but won&#8217;t make any promises as to time.. Giant Monsters being what they are and all.\u00a0 In the meantime, any nagging questions re the comic, I&#8217;ll make this an &#8216;any questions&#8217; post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Man, you know everyone on earth gets their fifteen minutes of fame when even lowly cartoonists get interviews.\u00a0 My Deep Thoughts on steampunk and the universe, over at Tor.com! I make one extremely contraversial statement in that interview that is bound to set off a firestorm.\u00a0 That is:\u00a0 the fashion of the 1830s is hideous. 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